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How Civilizations Die (and Why Islam Is Dying Too)

By: David Goldman
Narrated by: Tom Weiner
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Past and present civilizations failed and fail for many reasons, but the number-one predictor of a civilization’s survival is its sense of religion—or lack thereof. So argues First Things columnist David Goldman in How Civilizations Die (and Why Islam Is Dying Too).

The strength of a civilization’s religion affects its purpose, its fertility rate, and ultimately, its fate, says Goldman—who then argues that, contrary to popular belief, Islamic countries are in the last throes of death while Christian America is in a position to flourish. Goldman goes on to say that America must embrace our exceptionalism and stop trying to save Muslim countries that are determined to destroy themselves.

Original, stunning, and provocative, How Civilizations Die shows the power of religion to save—or doom—a society and why, if we stick to our principles, we will emerge as leader of another American century.

©2011 David P. Goldman (P)2011 Blackstone Audio, Inc. Civilization Islam Politics & Government Religious Studies World Imperialism Crusade Military Ottoman Empire War Self-Determination Ancient History

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Critic reviews

"David Goldman muses on population trends and religion with a breathtaking depth, originality, and panache." (Daniel Pipes, president of the Middle East Forum)
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The first half of this book is very good and points up some verifiable data which holds mostly true with figures about fertility rates today and how the lack of children will ultimately finish us all off, the given reasons are debatable but the author shows no sign of being anything less than Godlike in his convictions and expresses them very well. Unfortunately he does not deign to discuss the well known arguments against his basic theory just preaches. But then we get into part two "America is Great" which is actually comical and nauseating at the same time - obviously this book was written long before the great American public called BS on this sort of nonsense and voted for Trump and then even worse Biden in the vain hope there might be some American Dream left for them. I was confused by the end as to whether this book is religious or patriotic, pro American & Israeli anti everyone else propaganda, a serious work trying to provoke debate or mere twaddle? You should read it for yourselves if you get this far, if you are American and Republican you will like it, Democrat you will love it anyone else in the world will just marvel at Mr Goldman's total lack of humility and blinkered views - but it does provoke thought you can't just write it off so on balance it is reasonably good and worth the time.

Good and Bad in equal measure

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It starts off very academically and logically, putting forward a highly reasoned argument for the book's proposition, as per its title. The key issue is population decline (and the reason therefor).

Okay that is fine but, whether to 'pad out' the book or otherwise, he ends up giving his views about the failings of President Obama and American foreign policy, sounding rather like the lonely, ranting drunk you avoid at the pub bar!

A book of two halves!

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What could have made this a 4 or 5-star listening experience for you?

Balanced writing

Has How Civilizations Die (and Why Islam Is Dying Too) put you off other books in this genre?

Most certainly

How did the narrator detract from the book?

Extremely aggressive tone

If you could play editor, what scene or scenes would you have cut from How Civilizations Die (and Why Islam Is Dying Too)?

I won't cut anything but suggest writer to have a balanced way of writing about Abrahamic religions.

Any additional comments?

Very bad listening experience

very offensive book and biased book against Islam

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