
Embracing Innovation in Uncertain Times with Jon Hirst
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In this episode of Up Next, Tommy Lee sits down with Jon Hirst, Co-Founder of Generous Mind, to explore how nonprofits can pursue innovation with clarity and courage, even in seasons of uncertainty.
Jon draws from his experience as a longtime Chief Innovation Officer to unpack the tension nonprofits face between preserving what works and taking bold steps into the unknown. He and Tommy discuss the difference between invention and innovation, how AI is reshaping donor engagement, and why defining ROI as “return on learning” can build deeper trust with stakeholders.
Whether you lead a ministry, manage strategy, or are dreaming up the next big idea, this episode will help you think more intentionally about risk, experimentation, and the future of gospel-centered work.
Links & Resources:
www.generousmind.com
www.innovationinmission.com
generousmind.blogspot.com
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