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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

By: From Tenacious Change featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
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 "Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.From Tenacious Change, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth Science Social Sciences
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  • S3E14 - Table Talk on What it Means to be Patriotic

    S3E14 - Table Talk on What it Means to be Patriotic
    Jul 7 2025
    If you are a listener from the United States, how patriotic do you feel at this time? Did you celebrate the 4th of July with enthusiasm and gusto or with an eye roll and a mumbled “Meh!”? In this conversation, we reflect on the significance of the 4th of July and explore the concept of patriotism. We discuss personal experiences related to Independence Day, the meaning of patriotism in contemporary society, and the importance of acknowledging both the positive and negative aspects of American history. We emphasize the need for critical assessment of national pride and the role of civil discourse in creating a more inclusive understanding of patriotism.Take Our Patriotic Survey:We’d like to know how you spent your 4th of July this year and what it means to you to be patriotic, now that you know our answers to these. Please take a minute to visit this Google Form link where you can take our three question survey: https://forms.gle/f1Xsm112E8hVogJV7 Learn more: The 4th of July, a Time to Celebrate…or Not? By Heidi and Guy Burgess - https://open.substack.com/pub/beyondintractability/p/newsletter-365?r=2ztkta&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=falseWe asked the same questions of Perplexity AI that Heidi and Guy asked of Chat GPT 4o. We got similar answers. If you are curious, you can look at what we found on Perplexity using this link: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/can-you-tell-me-what-progressi-2It9P1PLSXWppcK6NPo0sQ An excellent podcast that looks at what it means to be patriotic through the evolution of Captain America. Does America Need a Hero? From NPR history podcast Throughline: https://www.npr.org/2025/07/03/1255164467/does-america-need-a-heroHow We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Meet Lamar and TomLamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.Credits:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIVideo from KCRG-TV and PBS News Hour.Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded July 3, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, July 7, 2025.
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    53 mins
  • S3E13 A Table Talk on How NOT to Have a Civil Dialogue

    S3E13 A Table Talk on How NOT to Have a Civil Dialogue
    Jun 23 2025
    In just a few weeks, we’ll celebrate the two year anniversary of the start of this podcast and we’ll be approaching our 50th episode. It seems like a good time for us to take a step back and remember why we are doing this podcast and what we hope to accomplish with it. In this episode, Lamar touchbase with the foundation of Getting to 3rd Space.Learn more: Juneteenth: Sun, Sounds and the Spirit of Freedom (National Museum of African American History & Culture) https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/moments/juneteenth#:~:text=Juneteenth%20is%20an%20often%20overlooked,Lincoln%20signed%20the%20Emancipation%20Proclamation Nathan Sage, Iowa Democrat for Senate - https://www.sageforsenate.com/ 'Well, we all are going to die” (The Des Moines Register, May 30, 2025) https://www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/politics/2025/05/30/senator-joni-ernst-iowa-town-hall-well-we-all-are-going-to-die-butler-county/83945134007/Iowans' responses to Joni Ernst: 'You just moved well beyond elitist' | Letters (The Des Moines Register, June 3, 2025) https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/readers/2025/06/02/joni-ernst-apology-video-reactions-medicaid/83993313007/Joni Ernst posts sarcastic apology for Medicaid comments that “we all are going to die” https://youtu.be/gqdwSLKE554?si=jPYEgMlU1IEAle-h Is the video featuring Caitlin Clark questioning the gender of Brittney Griner real or a deep fake? https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-the-video-featuring-caitlin-cNWQhhRuSeGuKjpfFgk.PQ 11 rumors regarding Caitlin Clark we've addressed (Snopes.com) https://www.snopes.com/collections/caitlin-clark-rumors-collection/ Okay, even Getting to 3rd Space has an AI summary on the web that WE didn’t write. https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=getting+to+3rd+space+with+lamar+and+tom&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Meet Lamar and TomLamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.Credits:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIVideo from KCRG-TV and PBS News Hour.Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded June 19, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, June 23, 2025.
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • S3E12 A View from the Farm with Allen Schrag

    S3E12 A View from the Farm with Allen Schrag
    Jun 9 2025
    Lamar and Tom welcome Allen Schrag, an innovative Kansas farmer and business person with a lifetime of experience in farming. In this conversation, they discuss the current state of agriculture, comparing it to the 1980s farm crisis, and explore the risks and challenges faced by farmers today. Allen, and his son Paul, operate Silver Creek Farms where they utilize an array of innovative farming techniques, including the use of biologicals to enhance crop production and to maintain soil health for future generations. To learn more about Allen, Paul, and their approach to farming, visit this website: https://locusag.com/grower-spotlight/allen-schrag-silver-creek-farms/ Learn more: The Farm Crisis, a 2013 documentary by Iowa Public Television (film, approx. 90 minutes): https://www.pbs.org/video/iptv-specials-farm-crisis/The Farm Crisis of the 1980’s, a short-course based on the 2013 documentary above: https://www.iowapbs.org/iowapathways/mypath/2422/farm-crisis-1980s Country (1984 film starring Jessica Lange and Sam Shepard): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087091/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk The River (1984 film starring Cissy Spacek and Mel Gibson): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088007/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk The Farmer’s Wife (1998 Frontline Series from PBS):https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/farmerswife/Also, check out these concepts described by Allen:Biologicals in agriculture: https://locusag.com/blog/agricultural-biologicals/Carbon offsets: https://www.climatefarmers.org/blog/carbon-credits-for-farmers-what-are-they-and-what-benefits-do-they-bring/ Chapter 12 bankruptcy: https://www.vermontlaw.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Chapter-12-Bankruptcy-Brief.pdf Sustainable Airline Fuel (SAF): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_biofuel How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Meet Lamar and TomLamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.Credits:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIPhotos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com.No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded May 15, 2025, using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland, Kansas, and Arkansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, June 9, 2025.
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    1 hr and 20 mins
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