In this episode, Jobina and Luther dive into The Chosen, Season 4, Episode 1 — and yes, Luther shamelessly plugs his book It’s Time to Question HOW Christians Believe. We reflect on how Jesus communicates in the show (still using symbolism, even with his own followers), and wonder: if the Bible is supposed to be clear, why does so much of it require decoding? We also talk about how daunting it must be to play Jesus on screen, especially with what’s coming. Jobina, still haunted by The Passion of the Christ, questions whether The Chosen will go full gore when the crucifixion hits. It’s a mix of reverence, realism, and a lot of theological side-eye.

In this episode, Jobina and Luther watch The Virgins — a reality show following four people navigating sex, shame, and desire in a world obsessed with experience. It seems like two of them want to stay virgins and two really, really, really don’t. We talk about what it means to be a virgin later in life, how hard it can be to feel attractive when you don’t fit the mold, and the surprising revelation that one married couple stayed virgins a whole year after the wedding. We ask: Is virginity a burden, a choice, a circumstance — or just one more way we define ourselves by what we haven’t done?

This week, Jobina and Luther take on The Righteous Gemstones, but weirdly have to take on Season 4 Episode 2, instead of the series or season premiere. Still, they find plenty to talk about: honesty (or the lack thereof) in relationships and breakups, telethons, what it means to take a break from life, and yes… full frontal nudity.