
S3 / E7 - Don't forget to treat people like people (especially when it's hard)
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About this listen
We depart from our typical format in this episode for a couple of good reasons. We added a guest interview with Jen Casimiro -- a Systems Designer with a focus on Equity -- at the end of the episode to take a deeper dive into one of our topics. Additionally, since we recorded this episode right after a two month summer break, we spend some time up front catching up on all the TV episodes we have watched and plan to watch.
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