When I started this podcast, I was feeling a bit gloomy about the way that technology was heading, but I wasn’t gripped by full-on panic.

Yet here we are, a year or so later, and I feel like I’ve been radicalised. Not a day goes by when there isn’t some announcement from Silicon Valley that would chill the blood of even the more rational of tech consumers. We are heading into the vortex.

This is a world that Ned Ludd predicted to me, when we first started exchanging emails more than a year ago. I haven’t heard from them in a while. I’m vaguely aware of what’s going on in their life and understanding of why they don’t feel the need to bombard me with their thoughts about how to arrest this techno-decline, but still, I feel the battle being lost. I remember something they wrote to me back at the start of this journey. “THE CAR DOESN’T GO INTO REVERSE, BUT IT MIGHT TAKE ANOTHER ROAD.”

It's not an amazing metaphor, not least because most – dare I say, all – cars do, actually, go into reverse. But the necessity for a different road still strikes me. I don’t want to just accept that all the bad things I fear will come to pass will come to pass. Can’t we do something?

The Luddites, who inspired this show, smashed up automated machinery in the 19th century. They didn’t want to lose their jobs, their livelihoods – their purposes – to new fangled automation. They’ve gone down in history as belligerent refuseniks, railing against the inevitable tide of history. But as you’ll hear in today’s discussion, they’ve had a real lasting impact on little things like labour laws and trade unions.

My guest is Mauro Lubrano, author of a new book Stop the Machines: The Rise of Anti-Tech Extremism. Originally hailing from Italy, Mauro is now a lecturer in international relations at the University of Bath, and someone who has thought, and written, about the action that might be taken (for better or worse) against our machine overlords. Have a listen to our conversation now.

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This week on the Ned Ludd Radio Hour a piece on 'subscription addiction' and spreadflation. Are consumers being screwed over by the rise and rise of different subscriptions to media and entertainment services? And are creators headed for an economic cliff edge? Listen – and then subscribe to my Substack, duh.

Written and read by Nick Hilton.

Music by Apes of the State.

Cover artwork by Tom Humberstone.

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A couple of weeks ago, Luigi Mangione, a 26-year-old American, allegedly shot Brian Thompson, the CEO of a major health insurer in the US. Suddenly, a lot of the ideas I’d be gently noodling with on this show were being discussed as potential sources of violence. Was Mangione a Luddite? Someone who felt that technology had atomised a generation? Or was he, in fact, an accelerationist who believed that artificial intelligence would expand human capability? And, ultimately, did any of this matter?

Now, disaffected young men pick up guns with shocking frequency. They perpetrate violence with shocking frequency. They veil this horror under the cloak of ideology with shocking frequency. In a way, Mangione is no different.

But, in another way, he is very different. Just look at how the violence has been received. For days, Mangione was on the run, seemingly shielded by an American public whose anger over an exploitative healthcare industry was spilling over. He became a pin-up, for a moment, of a generational anxiety. There were echoes of how the Unabomber, Ted Kaszynski, was received by some climate activists. Violence might not be an answer, but sometimes it make a point. In big capital letters.

But looking at Mangione – and his digital footprint – only confused me more. This didn’t feel like a revolutionary left-winger lashing out at a social evil. In fact, the more I saw, the more I felt like I was seeing someone quite familiar. Basically conservative, intellectually ambitious, in thrall to the technological structures that they also blamed for our ills. Is this just the modern aspect of the age-old libertarianism that has been a constant companion in tech circles?

To discuss all these things – at Ned’s suggestion – I dialled up Io Dodds, a British journalist based in San Francisco, who’s currently a Senior Reporter at The Independent. She had written on Mangione and, in particular, his relationship with an ill-defined movement called the “grey tribe”. In this episode, we’ll try and unravel some of that and put together a definition, however boggling, of what could be a very consequential movement.

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Artwork: Tom Humberstone

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