In this episode, we sit down with Andrea Battle, a J. Flowers Provider and expert in Somatic Experiencing, to explore how our bodies hold and release trauma. Andrea breaks down the science behind this powerful approach to healing, and shares real-life tips for anyone looking to reconnect with their body and ease the effects of stress. Whether you are new to the concept or looking to deepen your understanding, this episode is your guide to "shaking it off" and moving towards a more balanced and peaceful life.

Interventions aim to impact the human condition by helping individuals see themselves as they truly are, rather than through the distorted lens of addiction or untreated mental illness. This process is challenging because their brains have been hardwired by years of substance abuse or mental health issues. Essentially, Marc Kantor is asking people to make logical decisions with a brain that is not functioning logically. Marc enjoys sharing his own story of recovery, but other topics that are important to us including co-dependency, trauma and intergenerational trauma, binge eating disorder, attention deficit disorder, compulsive behaviors, spirituality, and the gift of desperation. Dr. Flowers will ask Marc about his transformation and his road to J. Flowers Health Institute.

John Karren is the owner and co-founder of Elements Wilderness Program in Utah. John helps run two therapeutic wilderness programs: Elements is for boys thirteen to seventeen, and Traverse is all gender, young adults eighteen to twenty five.

Today, John joins the show to discuss ‘non-traditional’ therapies and how the outdoors can be such a great benefit to everyone.

01:03 – Shay Butts welcomes John Karren to the show to discuss wilderness therapy and other ‘non- traditional’ therapy options

10:08 – How Elements Wilderness Program works

14:42 – Dealing with the negativity surrounding outdoor therapy

18:51 – Striving for excellence

23:40 – The role parents play in Elements Wilderness Program

26:53 – Shay thanks John for sharing his story today

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JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 783-6655

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John’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnkarren/

Elements Wilderness Website – https://www.elementswilderness.com/

Shay Butts’ LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/shay-butts-8963b217/

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are of their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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In Part Two of this very special three-part series, Dr. Jason Flowers welcomes back to the show Tonda Chapman, Candy Finnigan, & Jeanie Griffin.

Today, Candy & Jeanie talk about the critical role that family plays in recovery and the value of intimacy and being vulnerable.

01:31 – Tonda Chapman, Candy Finnigan, & Jeanie Griffin all join the show today to talk about intimacy and vulnerability

07:52 – Tonda speaks to the importance of family in the process of recovery

11:14 – Dr. Flowers thanks listeners for tuning in to Part Two of this episode and encourages them to return for Part Three with Tonda, Candy & Jeanie

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Tonda’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonda-chapman-3018b2154/

Candy’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/candy-finnigan-8194068/

Jeanie’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanie-griffin-d-d-lmft-lpc-lcdc-25a3939/

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are of their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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In Part One of a very special three-part series, Dr. James Flowers welcomes to the show Tonda Chapman, Candy Finnigan, & Jeanie Griffin.

Today, Tonda, Candy & Jeanie Griffin get personal and share their own experiences with addiction, recovery, spirituality, and The Twelve Step Program. They talk about family, and the people in our lives who become our family. Finally, they discuss the differences between belief and faith and turning to a higher power or being.

04:21 – Tonda Chapman, Candy Finnigan, & Jeanie Griffin all join the show today to talk about spirituality, addiction, recovery and family

10:04 – Turning to God or a higher power

15:23 – Family and the spiritual world

22:39 – Jeanie’s approach to family programs

32:41 – Belief and faith

35:07 – Dr. Flowers thanks listeners for tuning in to Part One of this episode and encourages them to return for Parts Two and Three with Tonda, Candy & Jeanie

“I guess I’ve been on a spiritual journey my whole life. I just keep going to the wrong address.” (06:44) (Jeanie)

“Along the way, I think I’ve been introduced to different levels of spirituality. Some of it is pretty crazy, but we don’t get to tell you how you feel in Twelve Step and that’s the magic of it. I don’t think you’re gonna stay unless you have some sort of spiritual awakening.” (13:14) (Candy)

“I think that’s the way we have to approach people that are looking for recovery. Everyone comes from a different place. And, one commonality I’ve found is that the people who bring family in and the family takes a part in their recovery, are so much more successful.” (19:02) (Tonda)

“I grew up in an alcoholic home. It was a loving alcoholic home, and there is such an animal. I knew I was loved. I knew we were loved. I also knew that there was something that crept in under the door that nobody could do anything about. And it fractured our family.” (26:02) (Jeanie)

“The spiritual life is not a theory; you have to live it. And we have to live it because we are spiritual beings.” (28:56) (Jeanie)

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 783-6655

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Tonda’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonda-chapman-3018b2154/

Candy’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/candy-finnigan-8194068/

Jeanie’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanie-griffin-d-d-lmft-lpc-lcdc-25a3939/

Books Mentioned:

Another Chance: Hope and Health for the Alcoholic Family - https://www.amazon.com/Another-Chance-Health-Alcoholic-Family/dp/0831400722

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are of their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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Amanda Blanco is the CEO of the Behavioral Hospital of Bellaire, who started her career with UHS as a Mental Health Technician over 10 years ago. In her tenure with UHS, she has successfully driven initiatives to convert a facility to seclusion free and started clinical trials on acute schizophrenic patients through MERCK, a research organization.

Today, she joins the show to talk about how a personal tragedy led her into the field of mental health, advice she would give to other mental health technicians, and the improvements she hopes to see in the mental health industry.

01:23 – Amanda Blanco joins the show to talk about her amazing journey from mental health technician to CEO of a hospital system

06:09 – Turning tragedy into hope

07:14 – Achieving a Bachelors & Masters degree while working at UHS and what it’s like working at Universal Health Services

09:59 – Advice Amanda would give to mental health technicians

13:24 – What’s next for Amanda

14:31 – Amanda speaks to her hope for the evolution of mental health

17:03 – Dr. Flowers thanks Amanda for joining the show and lets listeners know where they can connect with her and the Behavioral Hospital of Bellaire

“It’s funny because we talk about crossroads and how there’s a fork in our road where you really start to see which way you’re gonna go. At that time I had the interview as a mental health tech, I also had an interview as a store manager for a very big store chain. It was a lot more money, but when I did the tour at the residential treatment center for kiddos, I loved it. There was something so intriguing about it.” (05:39) (Amanda)

“I started to realize, as I got deeper into case management, that I needed to do something more extreme. I needed to be at a higher level in order to make change. The people in the trenches - the case managers, the direct care staff - they do a lot of work. But a lot of change comes from the top.” (07:54) (Amanda)

“I would not be at a company if I didn;’t share the same virtues, the same philosophy, the same everything as the President.” (09:01) (Amanda)

“Sometimes, doing jobs or taking on responsibility that goes outside of our comfort zone, that’s where you’re gonna grow. That’s what we do as humans, we grow. We grow from challenge. We grow from obstacles.” (10:47) (Amanda)

“Right now, I want to make BHB - Behavioral Hospital of Bellaire - as successful as possible. I want patients to come in and when they leave I want them to call their parents, family and friends and say, ‘I feel better.’” (13:37) (Amanda)

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Behavioral Hospital of Bellaire Website – https://bhbhospital.com/

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are of their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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Aproteem Choudhury is a mind-body interventionist who focuses on integrative behavioral health consultancy and public health with six years of experience empowering traumatized clinical populations, communities, and healthcare institutions. He’s incredibly skilled at building relationship-driven partnerships that activate our capacity to heal trauma, understand ourselves, and face challenges with practical and accessible mind-body skills.

Today, he joins the show to talk about generational trauma, his passion for serving others and the incredible work he’s doing with families and pediatric populations at Texas Children’s Hospital.

01:22 – Aproteem Choudhury joins the show to talk about his background as a mind-body interventionist and the incredible work he’s doing in the community of Uvalde, Texas

06:38 – Service-oriented activities

11:35 – How trauma spans multiple generations both in the past and in the future

20:18 – Working with families at Texas Children’s Hospital

23:20 – Dr. Flowers thanks Aproteem for joining the show and for the great work he’s doing and lets listeners know where they can connect with him

“The work that we’re now doing in Uvalde is coming together, sharing what needs to be shared. No one is diagnosing you. No one is trying to fix you. We’re coming together as humans. and we’re teaching skills that help us connect more deeply to what’s happening in that moment. And that’s a lot of what mind-body medicine is.” (07:24) (Aproteem)

“So, what’s in our subconscious mind and what’s living in ourselves signals to ourselves and sends messages to ourselves. That’s a lot of what mind-body medicine allows us to look at and interact with - this process that’s already happening.” (15:45) (Aproteem)

“I think working with kids and families is such a privilege because you get to work with a complete system. So much of what happens in general with pediatric populations is that the child or the adolescent might think that they’re responsible for the challenges they’re facing. And that creates a whole other complex - shame, guilt - that complicates the healing process.” (20:42) (Aproteem)

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 783-6655

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Aproteem’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/breathewithapro/

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are of their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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