Hosts: Emma Stark, Phil Sanderson, Louise Reid

In this rich and often humorous conversation, Emma, Phil, and Louise unpack what God truly means by leadership — contrasting worldly authority with the biblical model of rulership that looks more like gardening than domination. They share personal stories from their Irish childhoods (including firework misadventures!), then dive deep into mantles of leadership, the shock when leaders fall, and the crucial need for an authentic inner life.

Key takeaways include:

• Biblical leadership is about tending, nurturing, and bringing fruitfulness — not controlling others.
• Leaders must steward their private life with honesty and death to self, casting crowns before God rather than seeking earthly applause.
• Honor and appreciation for leaders is healthy — but becomes toxic when shaped by worldly entitlement or obsession with awards.
• True leaders must learn to laugh at themselves and stay humble.
• As Phil reminds: “If you get your claim here on earth, you’re sacrificing it in heaven.”

This episode is a clarion call for leaders to live congruently before God and people — gardening souls, stewarding truth, and resisting the temptation of earthly rewards.

In this bold prophetic conversation, Emma Stark, Louise Reid, and Phil Sanderson reveal why Romans 1:16 — “I am not ashamed of the gospel” — is the defining verse for the next 7 years of the Church. With piercing insight, they call the global body of Christ out of decades of shame and into a movement marked by emotional power, mass salvations, and authentic transformation. If you’ve felt the tension between cultural compromise and kingdom truth, this episode will ignite you to live unashamed and full of gospel fire.

📒 Show Notes

Hosts:

• Emma Stark
• Louise Reid
• Phil Sanderson

Key Topics Covered:

• Romans 1:16 as a Prophetic Pivot: Why this verse is central to the next 7-year epoch in the church.
• The End of Shame: How a generation of believers has corporately carried shame about the gospel—and how God is removing it.
• Bold Evangelism: Not just for evangelists. Everyone is called to be unashamed in this next move of God.
• Emotional Shift: The need to pray for emotional transformation — from shame to joy and eagerness for the gospel.
• Salvation Beyond Heaven: The gospel isn’t just about eternity — it brings healing, deliverance, and transformation now.
• From Mercy to Grace: Why grace doesn’t just neutralize sin but empowers us to live fully transformed lives.
• Same-Sex Attraction & Transformation: A bold prophetic call to not just abstain but be truly transformed by God’s power.
• Historical Context: How the church’s seeker-friendly movement and individualism contributed to 40 years of watered-down gospel expression.

What if we’ve misunderstood the Kingdom of God? In this striking episode of What the Prophets Say, Emma and David Stark cut through religious assumptions to reveal what the Kingdom truly is and what it is not.

They dive into the reality of Jesus’ leadership, exploring how He responded to badly behaved disciples. This is an episode you won’t want to miss!

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