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Wingmen Show

Wingmen Show

By: Drew Brown and Paul Thompson
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Two Dope Boys in a Navy jet. The Wingmen Show is a weekly podcast about challenges and opportunities in everyday life. Your hosts are two guys born in Harlem, New York previously unknown to each other. Separately, they became Navy pilots flying high performance jet aircraft on and off of aircraft carriers patrolling the world’s oceans. Their paths did not cross formally until they ended up flying for the same airline after their active-duty military service had ended. They have a wide range of experiences spanning the worlds of basketball and boxing. Drew’s father is Drew Bundini Brown, Muhammad Ali’s Wingman and coined the iconic phrase “Float Like A Butterfly Sting, Like A Bee". Martial Arts and Show Business are also areas of mutual interest. Drew has been featured nationally on television programs such as the Donahue Show and the Today Show. He has also appeared in hundreds of newspapers and magazines. Both are published authors as well as former Navy jet pilots and Commercial Airline Pilots; they retired after having flown the Boeing 777 airliner. The cultural mix of religions, immigrant parents and grandparents from Europe and the Caribbean gives them an uncommon perspective on racial matters. Melding the cultures of New York City, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Memphis, the Caribbean and Atlanta has helped shape their worldview when combined with the life they have seen and experienced having flown extensively to countries throughout the world.They are wingmen to each other, providing advice, guidance and constructive criticism when needed. The goal of the show is to inspire and entertain those unafraid to expand their minds and perhaps learn something new in the hope that the listeners can become wingmen to others. Each one, teach one.© 2023 Wingmen Show Personal Development Personal Success Politics & Government Social Sciences
Episodes
  • The Good and Evil of Chat GPT
    Jun 17 2025

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    The future is not guaranteed. It is always good to have a plan for tomorrow, but it’s worth taking time to enjoy your life in the present.

    Musical influences come and go, but the recent loss of one of the greatest American musical innovators of all time, Sylvester Stone, who led the group known as Sly to & The Family Stone has left the music world stunned. Featuring one of the first high profile bands, integrated in terms of race and gender, the group made a permanent imprint on the consciousness of young people as well as musical performers of their generation. In addition, the recent loss of another staple of American culture of the 1960’s and 70’s, Brian Wilson of the musical group The Beach Boys shortly thereafter, brought into focus the negative effects that drug use can have on the human life.

    Artificial Intelligence, AI has become an integral part of daily life as a primary method of retrieval of information of all types. One of the drawbacks of this labor-saving technology is the tendency of students at all levels to allow the system complete certain school assignments, perhaps making written essays a thing of the past. The quick answer is to substitute written assignments with oral reports or examinations. The trend is most pronounced with college students in the humanities, but its improving technology may pose a similar problem in technical disciplines as well in the future.

    Most people are aware that smoking is detrimental to human health. The trend towards smoke-free zones is expanding well outside of the United States and into other nations by government decree, to improve the health of their populations, particularly among teenagers. At one time there were ads in magazines and on television with people posing as medical doctors who actually advertised and promoted smoking for the general population.

    Meet a wingman who developed his own program to eliminate the loss of life by drowning, by starting his own swimming program that has taught over ten thousand people how to swim with confidence and safety.

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    35 mins
  • Who in the Hell are the Wingmen Anyway?-Part 6
    Jun 10 2025

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    In the final installment of their origin story, your wingmen, CDR Drew and Dr. Paul, discuss particular elements of their lives. The pair examine their station in life today. Throughout, they both reflect on the past to give a broader view of their approach to life based on the support and encouragement they received from their most trusted advisors.

    Both wingmen have spent some time around individuals considered to be “rich & famous”. Separately, they have found that money alone cannot replace the benefits of good health and positive relationships with other people. Everything they achieved started with a good educational grounding. The common thread of academic excellence helped propel them both from relatively humble beginnings to a comfortable position later in life.

    The reality of being married, with children, imposes certain lifestyle conditions on aircrew members anywhere in the world. As professional pilots they found themselves faced with some challenges that had to be overcome. These challenges or obstacles had to be properly managed in order to minimize family turmoil and provide a positive environment for their children to reach their greatest potential.

    Having grandchildren has proved to be a blessing that has opened another portal in life. Through this gateway they have discovered new things in their newest generation, along with reflecting on some of the beneficial lessons they learned in the past.

    The emphasis they place on health, nutrition and physical movement has benefits for us all in the long run. Those who dream may be visionaries, but dreams are not enough; without planning and taking action, nothing happens.

    Even the wingmen, have wingmen. All of the shows relied heavily on the initial guidance provided by our trusted advisor, Mr. Matthew Bivins. Having graduated from the baby steps initially taken to get the production off the gound, it became time to get the assistance of a social media professional. Our show has been presented to the world under the guidance of our “main man in media”, Mr. Branden Gelinas of the Mystik Digital Agency. But for both wingmen, their greatest support and cheerleaders for their success came from those who were closest to them, from the very beginning.

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    36 mins
  • Who in the Hell are the Wingmen Anyway?-Part 5
    Jun 3 2025

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    Returning from his latest adventure on the high seas, CDR Drew details the high points of his travels. The immortal phrase that begins with the words, “float like a butterfly, sting like a bee”, would never been famous if not for the world-wide attention given to the competitiveness between combatants Muhammad Ali and his one time nemesis Joe Frazier. Those words coined by Drew “Bundini” Brown described the aura of combat psychology that surrounded their fight trilogy that captured the attention of the world.

    The wingmen found themselves in the fortunate position of having one of the best jobs in the world when they were hired as pilots by a one-time fledgling company that eventually became a global juggernaut in the cargo industry, FedEx.

    The life of an airline pilot has many advantages as well as unique challenges. The required time away from home can complicate many aspects of family life. The fact that FedEx initially flew entirely at night caused pattern changes in circadian rhythm that placed physical and mental challenges on crew members. It was essential that this disruption in sleep pattern had to be properly managed in order to maintain good mental and physical health

    The relative seniority of each pilot is the overall determinant of schedule, salary, vacation as well other intangible benefits. Dr. Paul had the good fortune of being quite senior during his entire tenure at the company. CDR Drew maintained a relatively high seniority position by forgoing advancement to the position of Captain in order maintain control of his work schedule so that he could give his children his undivided attention during formative events in their lives.

    Now retired, both wingmen remain on the quest to pass on a little of what they know, gain new knowledge and embark on new adventures. Perhaps one of their greatest escapades is doing the Wingmen Show podcast.

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    35 mins
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