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The China in Africa Podcast

The China in Africa Podcast

By: The China-Global South Project
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Twice-weekly discussion about China's engagement across Africa and the Global South hosted by journalist Eric Olander and Asia-Africa scholar Cobus van Staden in Johannesburg.2023 Political Science Politics & Government
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  • It's Payback Time For a Lot of Those Chinese Loans
    Jun 27 2025

    Borrowers in Africa and other developing regions are expected to repay $35 billion of Chinese loans this year, with two-thirds of the amount coming from the world's poorest countries. Many of these debts were taken out in the mid-2010s and are now exiting their grace periods, putting enormous pressure on government budgets that were already under strain.

    But this isn't a problem just for borrowing countries; Chinese creditors are also finding themselves in a difficult bind. If they push too hard to collect on these debts, it could force the most vulnerable countries into default. At the same time, though, they have an obligation to their stakeholders, including Chinese taxpayers, to ensure these obligations are fulfilled.

    Riley Duke, a research fellow at the Lowy Institute, highlighted the difficult dilemma for both creditor and borrower in a new report on Chinese debt collection. Riley joins Eric & Cobus from Sydney to discuss how both sides of the transaction are responding to this growing challenge.

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    X: @ChinaGSProject | @eric_olander | @stadenesque

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    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth

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    FOLLOW CGSP IN FRENCH AND ARABIC:
    Français: www.projetafriquechine.com | @AfrikChine
    Arabic: عربي: www.alsin-alsharqalawsat.com | @SinSharqAwsat

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    Become a CGSP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CGSP Podcast mug! www.patreon.com/chinaglobalsouth

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    41 mins
  • [GLOBAL SOUTH] China Forced to Regroup After Israel-Iran War
    Jun 26 2025

    China is emerging from the U.S.-Israeli war against Iran in a much weaker position. For years, Beijing counted on Tehran to serve as a bulwark against Washington. Today, though, that's no longer possible as the Iranian government and its proxies across the Middle East have been neutralized, at least for now.

    The conflict also exposed a major Chinese vulnerability following threats that Iran might close the Strait of Hormuz in retaliation for the attacks on its nuclear facilities. This would be devastating for the Chinese economy, given that between a third and half of all Chinese oil imports pass through this strategic waterway.

    Ahmed Aboudouh, head of the China research unit at the Emirates Policy Center and an associate fellow in the Chatham House Middle East and North Africa program, joins Eric & Cobus to discuss the new realities facing Beijing in the aftermath of the war in Iran.

    JOIN THE DISCUSSION:
    X: @ChinaGSProject | @eric_olander | @stadenesque

    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth

    Now on Bluesky! Follow CGSP at @chinagsproject.bsky.social

    FOLLOW CGSP IN FRENCH AND ARABIC:
    Français: www.projetafriquechine.com | @AfrikChine
    Arabic: عربي: www.alsin-alsharqalawsat.com | @SinSharqAwsat

    JOIN US ON PATREON!
    Become a CGSP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CGSP Podcast mug! www.patreon.com/chinaglobalsouth

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    56 mins
  • A Conversation With Wu Peng, China's Top Diplomat For Africa
    Sep 3 2021

    This week Eric & Cobus sit down with Wu Peng, the director-general of the department of African affairs in the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, for his perspective on a wide range of issues that are impacting relations between the two regions.

    The conversation also features questions from a trio of experts in China-Africa relations including:

    • Gyude Moore, a senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development (@gyude_moore)
    • Zainab Usman, director of the Africa program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (@MissZeeUsman)
    • Aggrey Mutambo, senior diplomatic affairs writer for the Daily Nation and The East African newspaper (@agmutambo)


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